Naftali Bennett, former Israeli PM tells "Morning Joe" Israel didn't kill 45 people in tents - Hamas did, because they had a weapons depot underneath the tents.
WARNING: After watching Naftali Bennett speak about Palestinians you may need to go take a shower to wash off the red and brown baby meat.
The world knows that former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett is a certified LIAR and a mad, racist babykiller; but that didn’t stop “MORNING JOE” from presenting Bennett’s vile, racist, bloody propaganda to Americans eating breakfast.
MSNBC WILLIAM GEIST: “What can you say about getting the hostages home?”
NAFTALI: “There’s 120 hostages. We’re dealing with the most genocidal, terrorist organization on Earth. The bottom line is we can’t allow Hamas to stand. We can’t have them exist at the end of this war.
GEIST: “Even in this latest ceasefire proposal, Israel said we’ll stop shooting if you release the hostages. Do you have any hope that Hamas would listen to that?”
NAFTALI: “I think the only way to release the hostages is if Commander Sinwar and the leadership of Hamas know that their hours are over and that we’re minutes away from killing them.”
“The deal needs to be, We will not kill you, we will allow you to get on a boat and get out of Gaza if you release the hostages.”
“I think the half-hearted efforts by the Israeli government coupled with the American administration slowing down IDF all the time is self-defeating.”
“The faster we move in, the quicker we’ll have a deal.”
GEIST: “You say we should have been inside Rafah months ago.”
NAFTALI: “ That’s right. I think there’s way too much talk: we’re gonna do this, we’re gonna do that - JUST DO IT! JUST DO IT!”
“I was a soldier, I was a commander. If we just have several weeks to go in with all the force necessary, and tell Sinwar that the only way you will live is if he raises the white flag and releases the hostages.”
SCARBOROUGH: “So you think a full-scale invasion of Rafah would bring the hostages home more quickly?”
NAFTALI: “Yes. Obviously there’s no guarantee here. It’s a heart-wrenching situation. I think that the current approach of thinking we can reach this amazing deal where all the hostages will be released is naive. It means you don’t understand what we’re dealing with. The only way we get results if they understand their time is out.
We sealed the corridor, called the Rafah Corridor - the border between Sinai and Gaza - which means that about a week ago, Hamas can no longer replenish its arms, so time is running out for them.”
SCARBOROUGH: “Let’s talk about the ‘destruction of Hamas’ the phrase that’s been thrown around a good bit; is that the killing of all of Hamas leaders, or is that the expulsion of Hamas from Gaza as an effective governing force? The Biden Plan does say expelling Hamas from Gaza as a governing force.”
NAFTALI: “The latter. What I would envision is the leadership of Hamas - either we take them out and kill them, as we’ve done to several - or, similiar to Beirut of 1982; we get them on a ship, several thousand of the leadership of Hamas, get them out and then we can begin the rebuilding of a new Gaza.”
MSNBC: “Mr. Prime Minister let’s talk about this deal that President Biden unveiled publicly on Friday. President Biden framed it as “The Israeli Deal.” This is something that he said the government had agreed to. But we heard from Prime Minister Netanyahu say, ‘Well no, not quite.’ Can you explain the disconnect?”
NAFTALI: “The bottom line though is, I think its moot. I don’t think there is a deal. I think it’s an illusion. I don’t think Sinwar will release the hostages. He might release several of them to dangle and bide his time, but he’s playing around with us. There’s no reason to believe that he would release the biggest asset that he’s acquired unless he sees his death coming.”
MSNBC: “US officials say that part of the divide here was the agreement the Israeli military would withdraw from Gaza. Is that something that government would consider?”
NAFTALI: “I read the press and I heard that Netanyahu offered that sort of thing. I think that we have to maintain the Rafah Corridor, the Netzarim Corridor, otherwise what we’ll see is a very rapid rebuilding of Hamas and we’ll see another October 7, in 2025 or 2026. And they won’t release THE HOSTAGES, they may release a few hostages - they’ve got 120 of them. They’re not going to release all the hostages - no way, unless he sees tanks coming over, that’s the only option that will bring that result. I know this guy.
The leverage we need to create is an imminent and immediate threat on his life and the lives of the Hamas leadership. If we just follow through and stop this vaccilation, we can do it. I fought Hamas, I fought Hezbollah many years; we can do this - this is not the most complicated thing on Earth.
And by the way, we’re doing it with very low civilian casualties right now. We managed to move about a million citizens away from harm’s way. Contrary to what was being told to us that we can’t do it, it would take months - we did it in about ten days.”
MSNBC GEISS: “Despite your best efforts to spare civilians, as you know Hamas uses civilians as human shields, we know all that. Just last week there was the attack on a tent camp, an explosion ensued, 45 people were killed in grisly pictures. As a commander, should more care be taken to avoid the civilian casualties on the merits of not killing women and children - of course - but also the way it turns public opinion against Israel?”
NAFTALI: “I want to correct you. We did not attack the tent camp. We attacked and took out two leaders with a very precision weapon.”
MSNBC GEISS: “But it killed 45 other people.”
NAFTALI: “No it did not kill. What happened was, those people were hiding within ammunition that Hamas placed under them: RPGs and explosives, they exploded. It was a secondary explosion. So Hamas murdered its own people. You have to be very clear.”
MSNBC GEISS: “But that’s just the point: Hamas hides behind civilians, so if you’re going after Hamas, how do you avoid civilian casualties?”
NAFTALI: “If Hamas is determined to kill its own people, we cannot stop it. We cannot prevent Hamas from killing its own people. Just yesterday, let me tell you a story, in one of the houses, under the bed of a ten year old girl in Gaza, there was an ammunition depot with RPGs and explosives.
There’s no way in the world that we can prevent Hamas from killing its own people, and it wants to do that because it knows you are going to ask me those questions and it applies pressure on Israel.
The way to do away with it, is if everyone pressures Hamas - not Israel.
And point the finger at Hamas: stop killing your own people, stop hiding explosives under civilians.”
“I envision the model of post-WW2 Germany, where the first phase is defeating the Nazis, and we’ve not yet finished that.
Then I would put in place an interim appointed government of Egyptians, Saudis, Emirates, while Israel retains the security responsibility.
We don’t want to govern Gaza. There’s no desire, so in that sense it’s simple.
This would go on several years; it could be five, six years in which period we would also discontinue the incitement, so they’d have to stop teaching kids that Jews are pigs, etc. stop it in the media, stop it in the mosques, and within six, seven or eight years we could see how it develops and then we could hand over self-governance.
We do not want to govern Gaza. We have no desire whatsoever for anything from Gaza. We pulled out of Gaza in 2005, we handed over to the Palestinians.
There’s no territorial fight here. We have a terror state that wants to destroy Israel.”